A very Odd dream, because it is dealing with politics

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First background:  For those of you that don't know in colorado they are trying to get a law passed in Novermber about "Personhood".  What Personhood is suggested to be defined as is when egg gets fertalized with sperm creating a zygot.  Basically, calling a fertalized egg a person at moment of conception so that the "Person" has full rights of the law at that point going forward.  This is an effort to tell us when life begins.  The law is to be voted on in November.  I am sure if you google personhood you will find it.  The wording of the law is a small amount of words thus meant to simplify law.  This is really just a very thinly veiled way of outlawing abortion on a state level and bypassing the whole Roe vs. Wade supreme court ruling.  Why change it when you can define it diffently and make it illegal.  My wife told me the kid, and I do mean that this idea was written by a kid, was intent on giving the mother of a pre-born child writes to get treatment for the child in a hostpital as if the kid was already born, by today's law.  Granting a "person" full rights of the law as it stands from conception.  This is mostly aimed at insurance companies treating pregnancy as a "pre-existing" condition and not covering it for the mother.   The insurance industry likens the gift of being pregnant the same status as they would if the mother had a desiese.  Wrong in so many ways.

I personally belive in abortion and I belive in life.  Right-to-Life, Pro-Life, and other such names for this on both sides are not properly named and do not give the right tone of what the person really belives in.  

Here is my take:  I believe that a woman should have the right to choose to keep a baby or not pre-birth, this choice would have some provisos but nothing that would take away the right ot the woman that is pregnant a life.  I feel that life is all life is precious and sometimes it is permissable to sacrafice it.  My full beliefs on this would take time to get down.  Truly being a man, I feel that I would have no right to tell a woman that she does or doesn't have a right to keep a baby to term or not.  It is up to the female population to decide with out any male influence.  And should be handled on a case by case situation as well.  Life is too complex to hash it out into law and it is something that the goverment as a whole should not have their mits in.   This is also why I feel that everyone should KILL this stupid "Personhood" situation as it stands.  Now, eventually, we as a country/race of people should get this defined and have a good definition of sentience as well.  But as a species we are too young to decide this.  We need a lot more maturing, as a species.

On the the strange dream:

I dreamt that I was up on a stage debating this personhood issue with the vice president hopeful Palin.  She didn't get many words in edgewise because I was good at debating it from a logical and legal standpoint.  Then when she lost utterly a barbarian 1/2 ork from one of the roleplaying games jumped up from behind the stage crying his battle cry "Ned Make DEAD!!" and beat the living snot out of my opponent and the stone tablet that represented in my dream the bill that was being proposed to be an amendment to the constatution, not just a state law.  This beating was taking place as the whole crowd was in simultanious horror and cheering for it, as humans are apt to do when a violent spectacle is taking place and the "mob mind" has been activated.

Yes, the last part was vivid and some of my points were too.

To go over some of my points, in breif:
1. in order for it to be a law that the fertalized egg must be able to demonstrate an indiviual personality seperate from the host, or mother in this case, and be observable independently from the mother's observation.

2.  On the extreem, If this law is in place, then the "Person" is technically held hostage and the mother could be brought up on charges of kidnapping by anyone, especially the father.

3.  Many far reaching laws would be affected by this and would all be affected negitivly.  One of which that, rediculacly comes to mind is restraunt ocupancy laws, If many pregnant women were all dining together you would need to count each woman twice or even more times to account for twins, triplits, or quads.    This would make things unlivable.

4. Custody laws would be stupidly impacted.  What if the couple split up, the man would get rights of visitaiton or even could be granted custody.  Catch 22, the child can't survive without the mother and to try to acomplish the move is dumb, a case of murder or premeditative agravated assult at the low end of the scale of criminal actions.  Many other laws would be rendered stupid.


Other things factored into my arguments in the dream too:

In order for "Personhood" to be established you must ensure that the "person" is seperate from the mother and death would occur if that happened.  Ofcourse you might be able to prove that the individual is a seperate person at mayby the second trimester or when the fetus begins movement independently, such as kicking, or even altering the eating habits of the mother, or even verifying that the brain has developed to a point that it can technically "think" or at least react much like an animal would, to pain and other stimulous.  But would that count as a personality seperate than the mother?  Developmentwise we would be giving the "Person" more rights to the law than any pet or animal has for more development in the animal.

Anyway, It is mentally blurry in the dream but they were all riviting and nail the coffin shut on the issue type of arguments that the croud agreed with.  As I said, It was a dream.  I do not wish anyone harm by this dream.  It was just interesting to me.  Also, highlights to me that I have strong thoughts on subjects and am deeper than some people would like to think.  I just keep most of it bottled up inside.  Privately as most humans should.  Develop your own ideas, share them if you must but don't force others to believe in your ideas as their own.  Sort of a personal non-intrusion ethic I have that has it's own complex code that even I don't know the extent of.  But I feel and think firmly on things.

If any of you are upset or offended at my poor words here, to paraphrase puck from shakepear, Delete it from your memory.   It has been proven possible for humans or terestrials to do.

I just know that I feel strongly on this whole "personhood" insanity and feel strongly that we should live in harmondy with our complementary sexes.  Not Oposite sexes.  That implys that we are against each other.  A persons beleifs and right of individual choices should be sacred.  Not to be villified or to be complexified (I know not a word) into law.  Somethings should be brought into the law areana and codified.

That is all.
 

Dave

p.s.  No polititions, "persons", teressrials, or extra-teresrials, or other entities were willfully or knowingly harmed in the production of this dream and post.